Its almost not worth the effort to expose Russell and Rutherford. They have lost their place among WT greats. Russell is now a footnote, Rutherford merely a gate keeper. Nothing they taught except 1914 holds water for the modern GB. All the rest were merely two overzealous men making mistakes. They were not the governing body.
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JW Refutations of Criticism of Russell and Rutherford
by Duvduv incan someone direct me to jw refutations of the harsh criticisms of charles russell and judge rutherford that are on the internet and youtube?
i am a fair person and insist on hearing both sides to a controversy.
in this case, i would like to know what traditional yw responds to such personal criticisms and alleged changes in beliefs.
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Returning from a crash . . .
by compound complex ingreetings, friends:.
my trusty and very old dell died a few days ago; a friend's gift of a toshiba has gotten me here.
fortunately, it uses windows 7 like my old pc.
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Wasanelder Once
Returning from the outer darkness is a true miracle. Well done!
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Anyone ever know gays in the hall that are lying to them selfs or others?
by blownaway ini know of three situations i saw myself.
the first one was when i lived in arcadia.
all the people i use names on are dead and gone so no probs.
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Of course there are no self declared homosexuals in the congregations. I would hate to make accusations that weren't correct. There was a brother in the circuit who gave the talk on family life who sounded more like a girl than a man, very effeminate. Then again, Mike Tyson doesn't sound much like a man and he's never questioned for being gay. So, no. All the gays hid it too well.
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New brother to have a bible study with
by Akid48 inwell i moved to a new congregation, and i have no one to study with and i didnt have a bible study in weeks and i was loving but one meeting my aunt said ''im going to set up a bible study with brother bob (dont his name)''.well come to find out brother bob is a man that puts a lot of pressure on you to join the school etc.. well right now im like fuck,because i dont know how to deal with brother bob so i just wanted to know if any could help me..
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If you're not gay don't say you are. It makes you a liar and manipulative. Instead, be yourself. If you are not interested, don't act interested. Nothing discourages a study conductor as much as an unprepared student. Don't highlight anything in the book. Remember, highlighting or underlining is the sign of spiritual progress. The less you highlight, the less the spiritual interest. Answering "I don't know" infuriates a conductor as well. I actually had a brother yell at me when I was a boy, "I'm taking my time after work to study with you and you don't even read it ahead. I'm wasting my time." End of study. You can do this without being rude, just be a busy 13 year old. Good luck little man.
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Teachings/beliefs that fade into oblivion without explanation.
by smiddy3 in"millions now living will never die" that teaching persisted for a number of years from the early 1920`s ,sad to say that their would not be anywhere near millions alive today.and with another few years their won`t be anybody alive .. the year 1925 was supposed to see the resurrection of faithful men of old such as abraham issac and jacob and noah who were to be princes in the earth.
of course no such thing happened and we don`t here anything more about that prediction anymore.. the time period between adams creation and eves creation was an excuse why armageddon was delayed in about october 1975 because they didn`t know how much time had elapsed between the two.
that`s all forgotten about now.. six thousand years of human history was supposed to have ended in about october 1872 according to studies in the scriptures vol.2 1906 , the "time is at hand" page 11 (forward 1916 ) puts the start of the one thousand year reign of jesus christ as of the year 1873. so in 1906 they the i.b.s.a.
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"It never rained before the flood." That was a real gem.
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Refusing to become an elder
by ragingmad ini know someone who's family is very spiritual and says that her brother only pioneers and does not want to become an elder for various reasons, probably not wanting to deal with people's problems, and also the tremendous workload they put on them.
is this considered refusing advancement by god, or just choosing your own way?
he has not been "tapped" to become one, but he merely hasn't strived to become one..
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It is drilled into men that any who refuse a "privilege of service" are saying no to Jehovah. Also some CO's will compare them to weak sisters. Its a scam to enslave further any good men. So a simple "no" is applaudable.
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Sarah Huckabee Sanders Kicked Out Of Restaurant For Supporting Trump
by minimus ini think it’s ridiculous to kick people and families out of a restaurant because of politics.
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Just a little.
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The urban legends we heard as JWs!
by stuckinarut2 inhow often have we heard some sort of sensationalist urban legend as jws?.
here is an example i was told as a kid:.
the experience of a sister who knocked on a door and was greeted by a big fierce looking man- intimidating and mean.
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Its ironic Snare&araket that witnesses are taught demons would be so interested in young JW's while many who are elders actually abuse them.
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Drop Off in Mentioning 1914
by steve2 invideos from the summer jw conventions ("be courageous) show the "urgency" about the end racheted up several notches.
paranoia rules supreme!.
curiously, though, very few, if any, statements in the convention program about 1914 and the overlapping generations.
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I think the GB have cognitive dissonance in regards to 1914. They will always hold it dear, bronze it and stick it on the mantle in the Bethel Library.
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Sarah Huckabee Sanders Kicked Out Of Restaurant For Supporting Trump
by minimus ini think it’s ridiculous to kick people and families out of a restaurant because of politics.
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That's it guys, take your guns to the Red Hen and shoot the staff so you can have chicken. Lol
No cake gays, no chicken Trump mouthpiece. Done and Done.